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LSB#: 180719JH08
Make: Manufactured by Manufacture De Machines Du Haut Rhin (Manurhin) of France Under License to Walther
Model: Walther PP
Serial Number: JW2197
Year of Manufacture: 1971 from the original serial number.(https://www.waltherforums.com/forum/faq-pp-tp/18519-walther-pp-ppk-date-charts-see-post-2-a.html . Manurhin PP’s are on the C&R list.)
Caliber: .32 ACP (7.65mm)
Action Type: Single/Double Action Semi-Auto Pistol with Removable Magazine
Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “MANUFACTURE DE MACHINES / DU HAUT RHIN”, “MANURHIN / Made In France”, and “LIC. EXCL. WALTHER / MOD. PP Cal. 7.65mm”. The right side of the slide is marked with a crowned St. Etienne proof mark and “418077”. The barrel at the port is marked with two crowned St. Etienne proofs. The right side of the frame is marked with the import mark “IAI I KNOX IN”. The right side of the frame behind the trigger is marked with “418077” and a crowned St. Etienne proof. The front strap is marked with the serial number applied by the importer “JW2197”.
Barrel Length: 3 7/8”
Sights / Optics: The front sight is a short ramped blade at the front of the slide. The rear sight is a square notch dovetailed into the slide. The top of the slide has a thin rib that has fine wavy serrations to reduce glare.
Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are checkered brown plastic with a Manurhin logo at the top and marked with “LIC. WALTHER PP” just above the bottom edges of the grips. The smooth borders of the grips show a very few light handling marks. The checkering shows light to moderate wear with a marred area in front of the left grip screw. There are no cracks or chips. The grips rate in about Fine overall condition.
Type of Finish: The side, front strap and backstrap have a polished blue finish. The sides of the frame have a matte black finish.
Finish Originality: The finish is original.
Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion in the bore.
Overall Condition: This handgun retains about 97% of its metal finish. There is finish loss on the front edges of the slide, a small spot of finish loss on the right side of the slide and a ding in the underside of the slide just in front of the frame. There are small scratches through the finish in the front strap. The backstrap shows light thinning and a few light handling marks. The serrations on the hammer, safety and slide are sharp. The grip screw is sharp and the markings are clear. Overall, this handgun rates in about Fine Plus condition.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. This pistol has a de-cocker. We did not fire this handgun. As with all firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes with its factory box, a total of 3 magazines, an owner’s manual, a factory test target and a brass cleaning rod. The box is cardboard with a red fake snakeskin covering. The lid is marked with a Manurhin logo and “PISTOLET WALTHER PP”. The back panel has a white label with the correct model, caliber and original serial number of this pistol, with the importers serial number marked in red ink. The corners of the box are frayed but there are no tears in the edges. The inside of the box has cardboard separators between the spare magazines and the pistol. The box is in about Fine condition. The magazine in the pistol has a brown plastic finger extension floorplate, holds 8 rounds and is marked on the lower left side with a “MANURHIN” logo and “PP 7,65”, and at the bottom right with “Made In France”. The magazine looks like it was sandblasted and then re-blued. It is in about Fine condition as refinished. One of the spare magazines is similarly marked but has a flat blued steel floorplate. It shows thinning on the edges of the floorplate and on the feed lips, and light handling marks in the floorplate. It is in about Fine condition. The 3rd magazine is also blued with a flat blued floorplate and is marked with a Walther banner logo, “PP” and “7,65MM”. It shows a few light marks in the floorplate and is in about Excellent condition. The owner’s manual is written in German and is in about Fine condition. The test target shows a 7-shot group fired at 15m measuring about 3.0” center to center. The cleaning rod has a large pull ring at one end and a slot for a patch at the other. The pistol also comes with some sort of certificate from the Banc D’Epreuve Officiel that is written in French.
Our Assessment: At the end of WWII, the Walther plant was under control of American forces, but when the East/West zones were created, the plant found itself in the Eastern zone, and the machinery was confiscated by the Russians. Fritz Walther had moved west while he still had a chance, and took his drawings with him. He then contacted the French firm of Manufacture De Machines Du Haut Rhin to make PP and PPK pistols under his license. Manurhin made and assembled PP and PPK pistols under their name, and later made the slides and frames of guns assembled by Walther in W. Germany and marked with the Walther logo. Manurhin made the pistols from 1952 to 1984, in 1978, Interarms started manufacturing them for sale in the United States, and later they were made by Smith & Wesson. It is interesting that all the Manurhin made PP’s are on the C&R list, regardless of when they were made, but none of the others. This Manurhin PP was made in the 1971 and has French proof marks as well as import marks. It is in about Fine Plus condition with about 97% of its original finish remaining. The bore is bright with sharp rifling and no erosion. The pistol comes with its factory box, 3 magazines, a cleaning rod and paperwork. This is a nice-looking pistol that would make a nice carry pistol with a double action first shot.
CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This C&R eligible handgun CAN be transferred as a dealer sale in California and CAN be sold as a Private Party Transfer (PPT) at our Simi Valley shop. All cartridge firing handguns (even C&R's and antiques) sold to a California resident must be DROS'd. This does not apply to out of state residents.
The PP is the 'police pistol', the PPK is 'Police pistol, Kriminal' which was a smaller, shorter model that came under GCA 1968 and could no longer be imported, and the PPK/s is the 'police pistol,kriminal special' which has a pp frame with a ppk top and met the size requirements of GCA 1968. Jul 08, 2009 In addition to the serial number and proof marks, Model PP and PPK will often be found with Nazi party abbreviations and insignia. Still others will be found with Army acceptance marks in the form of an eagle, Swastika, and Waffenamt numbers.
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Walther Pp 7.65 Serial Number Lookup
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